5 Great Doctor Who Villains to NEVER Bring Back

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  • There have been amazing villains on Doctor Who, and some of them should never come back.
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  • Troll Loool
    Troll Loool 2 jam yang lalu

    The midnight entity and the beast are good examples of cosmic horror and I think doctor who needs more cosmic horror elements

  • Jane Doe
    Jane Doe 5 jam yang lalu

    simply: yes, you're right!

  • alfie animation
    alfie animation 9 jam yang lalu

    Maybe if they bring the flood back they could make it a war between the ice soldiers and the doctor is in the middle of the war

  • Beggar42
    Beggar42 12 jam yang lalu

    Suppose the Angels come back. The Doctor ensures a stable lightsource so they can clearly see the Angels ... phew, problem solved.
    Hang on ... does that angel ... have two shadows?
    The Angels tame or otherwise enslave the Vashta Nerada ... when the lights are off, the Angels get you, when the lights are on, the Vashta Nerada get you.

  • Laila Buchbinder
    Laila Buchbinder 23 jam yang lalu

    They're all David Tennant villains

  • Goldilocks Guy
    Goldilocks Guy 23 jam yang lalu

    Grey dog thing, left bottom corner shelve, is bugging the hell out of me, I swear I've seen that from something but can't remember!

  • weazz
    weazz Hari Yang lalu +1

    The Boneless could be a great return :D

  • weazz
    weazz Hari Yang lalu

    Volcano day had a predetermined ending, BUT the journey to how was great.

  • Sarge Wolf M/C channel
    Sarge Wolf M/C channel Hari Yang lalu

    I still think they can make a good angel episode🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Nicolas Clark
    Nicolas Clark Hari Yang lalu

    The Angels should have been a one-off, honestly. I definitely agree with all of these, though.

  • GreyScaleAnon
    GreyScaleAnon Hari Yang lalu

    If anyone tries to bring back the Vashta Nerada, it would have to be as an obstacle rather than a primary antagonist. Sort of like what they did with the waters in The Ghost Monument, except anyone that has seen the two-parter already know what the threat is and it doesn't seem as toothless. Wouldn't work in the established backstory for the planet in TGM because Vashta Nerada are a natural occurrence instead of something created in a lab (and it would affect the runtime since they'd require more effort to survive than just building a boat...), but in another story with a similar structure it might work.

  • Robin McCormack
    Robin McCormack Hari Yang lalu

    Want the Beast to come back in someway? Read a comic where he does!

  • I am Robby D
    I am Robby D 2 hari yang lalu

    THEY NEED TO STOP WITH THE OVER THE TOP CONFUSING SERIES LONG ARC. LEAVE LITTLE HINTS LIKE THE CRACK OR BAD WOLF DONT DO THINGS LIKE THE IMPOSSIBLE GIRL AND THE DOCTORS NAME FJSBAHSOQNSF

  • Lenny Fox
    Lenny Fox 2 hari yang lalu

    the flood creeped the hell out of me

  • prigg88
    prigg88 2 hari yang lalu

    Is there a reason these are all RTD era villains?
    Part of the reason I don't think think they'll be back is because they are from the RTD era. When Moffat was in charge, I don't think he brought anything back from those seasons. He could've brought back Capt. Jack etc. but he just sort of faded with the RTD era being over.
    Chibnall being in charge might change that or it might not.

  • Zarabada
    Zarabada 2 hari yang lalu

    Just pointing out that one of the best Classic stories was a prequel where you already knew the outcome; Genesis of the Daleks.
    Not only was it a positive treatment of the recurring villain (Daleks) but it also introduced another one (Davros).
    A prequel has great potential to go badly but if it is done right the result can be golden.

  • Mystk Majicc
    Mystk Majicc 2 hari yang lalu

    Return to the library. Boom.

  • Michael Taylor
    Michael Taylor 2 hari yang lalu

    great villians to never bring back, bad villians to always bring back, healthy food to never eat

  • Harry Barber
    Harry Barber 3 hari yang lalu +1

    Weeping angels!!!

  • mulfred100
    mulfred100 3 hari yang lalu

    Not 100% sure if you have done this yet but I'd love to see a top 5 one time villains you would bring back and maybe a top 5 villians who should have been given less screen time/story time.

  • Stephen Humphreys
    Stephen Humphreys 3 hari yang lalu

    I have my own theory about 'The Beast', one that hints it may already have been a returning enemy. It's mainly due to a visual thing - when you see the body of the beast, it's got two jars or flasks acting as part of its prison. It's also described (as far as I remember) as the epitome of evil - essentially, evil personified.
    There's a villain from the end of the classic series which shares these traits: Fenric. Fenric is described as what was left of one of two primordial forces - Good and Evil - he is the surviving shadow that remained of Evil after these first two forces were shattered as the universe is created. During a prior encounter, the Doctor manages to trap it in a flask that looks somewhat like the ones in The Satan Pit.
    Possibly this is a coincidence, possibly it was just a homage by the writers, but I've always chosen to believe that The Beast was either Fenric, still clinging to existence after his physical form was killed in 'The Curse of Fenric', or it was another shard of that original Evil. Either way, I see it as a returning villain, whether the Doctor realises it or not :-)

  • Anttoinette
    Anttoinette 3 hari yang lalu

    There should be a two parter where they all show up on the Tardis out of apparently nowhere, and the doctor has to face them all one by one over the span of like 5-10-20 minutes, and then the next one pops up, and then the doctor finds the source of the problem, and stops it

  • Anttoinette
    Anttoinette 3 hari yang lalu

    But what if the vashtanarada... Wait for it... Ended up on the Tardis

  • Declan Sargent
    Declan Sargent 4 hari yang lalu

    awesome video your soo great at explaining your ideas and opinions in ways we understand them and understand why they are great keep it up have a wonderful day

  • Edwin French
    Edwin French 4 hari yang lalu

    I have some ideas about scenarios for the flood and the midnight creature

    • Edwin French
      Edwin French 4 hari yang lalu

      Both of these stories are under my trademark so don’t you dare

    • Edwin French
      Edwin French 4 hari yang lalu

      The midnight creature
      The new doctor (Jodie wittica) crashes on midnight and the midnight creature infects her leaving all the companies on the tardis trying to prove themselves without the doctors help.

    • Edwin French
      Edwin French 4 hari yang lalu

      The Flood
      The human race creates a city on mars that use people infected by the flood as a source of water that they filter. It perfect and different

  • Matthew Ewing
    Matthew Ewing 4 hari yang lalu

    Basically dont bring back the scary villains

  • nuggistrike
    nuggistrike 4 hari yang lalu

    dos this mean tha there are ice warriores army zombie that has been frozen som where on mars ? that can be a good secuel ! everey zombie on mars unfrozen and attacking a colony 600 years in to future or mabe even 1500 years ! to be more realistick with human tech ! and they have either forgot about it ! or the drockter never told any on what happend on mars ! face it ! he / she dont warn any on ! most of the time he keep it to him self and his companions ! so big chance that the colony in the future never been warnt about zombie infeckterd water and a frozen zombie army !

  • Keegan
    Keegan 4 hari yang lalu +1

    I honestly want all of these back XD

  • Terri S
    Terri S 4 hari yang lalu

    I love how each one is a 10th Doctor villain :-)

  • Mud Crab
    Mud Crab 5 hari yang lalu

    I got sick of creatures being brought back JUST because they spent so much on the costume. Cough - Silurians - Cough.

  • John Owens
    John Owens 5 hari yang lalu

    Who turned off the lights?

  • djhutchison
    djhutchison 5 hari yang lalu

    Bring back the Dream Lord, with Toby Jones if possible!

  • Peter .Cartwright
    Peter .Cartwright 6 hari yang lalu

    Issue is these enemies are all from such great episodes and are all from a long way back now. In order to justify bringing them back the show would need a really good reason, and need to do them even better than last time, which wont happen. These are from some of the show's best episodes since 2005, they won't be outdone easily.

  • Daryl parker
    Daryl parker 6 hari yang lalu

    Though I agree the beast itself shouldnt be brought back maybe they could bring it up in the future. Like the Doctor discovers a cult dedicated to it's worships who have nefarious goals, or pherhaps a being related to it. Just go full lovecraft.

  • SOS Sama
    SOS Sama 6 hari yang lalu

    Wish Madame de Pompadour's clockwork robot didn't brought back on the first episode of Capaldi. I always irritate looking back at that a bit.

  • Brian The Destroyer
    Brian The Destroyer 6 hari yang lalu

    I think I disagree with your Vashna Narada one. The alien concept is lovely and I think a stroy COULD work with them again.
    Think about the Weeping Angels. I would have concluded they were a one off before, but they worked in the big ship one and didn't so much in the New York one if I remember right (rewatching and I haven't got back to there).
    Now I'm not a Dr Who writer and it shows, but the only story I can think using them is someone who is *using* the Vashna Narada for something. Say a maze of shadows as a trial or a prison. Infact that could be the name "Maze of Shadows". Or using them as a weapon where Jodie has to lure them off earth or something and night time is a death sentence so she is racing the sun, and the ep could be titled "Sundown". I think they DEFINATELY have potential and I would like to see them again.
    Also, if I remember right, the Doctor is the one who defined the Vashna Narada which suggests they are at large in the universe... so the cannon works, whereas for the rest you brought up they had to learn about each of them.

  • Jacob Ludy
    Jacob Ludy 7 hari yang lalu

    Listen to Night of the Vashta Nerada and Day of the Vashta Nerada from big finish off the classic doctors, new monsters vol 2 boxset

    • Council of Geeks
      Council of Geeks  6 hari yang lalu

      I need to clarify in future videos that I give a pass to these characters recurring in audio or novel, because the approach to presenting them has to be inherently different and the lack of recycled visual elements that comes with bringing them back on the show makes it more palatable.

  • riley stown
    riley stown 7 hari yang lalu

    My theory is that the creature from “Listen” is the same as the creatures in “Midnight”.

    • riley stown
      riley stown 6 hari yang lalu

      Council of Geeks eyy peer approval ☺️

    • Council of Geeks
      Council of Geeks  6 hari yang lalu

      That's more coherent than most others I've seen.

  • Melfice Skye
    Melfice Skye 7 hari yang lalu

    i think the beast could probably come black the time lord Omega got sucked into a black hole and he came back pretty sure the beast is probably more powerful than him.

  • Eric Kimball
    Eric Kimball 7 hari yang lalu

    On the Vashta Nerada, in Silence in the Library we're seeing a creature out of its ecosystem. Like an invasive species taken in land without predators it has reproduced beyond normal to become very dangerous. But that begs the question what keeps the Vashta Nerada in check in its proper ecosystem? If the Vashta Nerada are a hive mind a highly defensive of their territory, what is that in response to? What eats the shadow that melt flesh? I think there is something of interest to explore there. Not using the Vashta Nerada as a villain again but as the thing under threat from something else. What is the Caiman (a type of amazonian crocodile) to the piranha like Vashta Nerada?

  • The Camberwell Carrot
    The Camberwell Carrot 8 hari yang lalu

    From what I've heard you need not worry about returning villains. They are going with all new creations, thank goodness.

  • jerry2357
    jerry2357 9 hari yang lalu

    Davros should never have returned after “Genesis of the Daleks”. His apparent death at the end of that should have been his actual death, because that was an excellent and fitting end to the “Genesis” story.

  • ShadowBlaze
    ShadowBlaze 9 hari yang lalu

    The moment you said flood my heart lurched with ptsd from playing halo CE the library on legendary

  • James Willett
    James Willett 9 hari yang lalu

    Agree with all five.
    I'd add we should leave out Daleks and Cyber Men for a while. Maybe I'd think differently if I'd grown up on the classics, but I thought some of the five offered more as a fearful villain. Also, Tim Shaw was good but how has the doctor missed him if this is a regular hunt? That's probably a hint he'll return.

  • Gideon Prager
    Gideon Prager 10 hari yang lalu

    Anyone else notice that all of these monsters were fought by the 10th Doctor

  • Hoehner Tim
    Hoehner Tim 10 hari yang lalu

    In half the episodes we're already going to know the ending, except when the writers have decided they can change history for whatever reason. I love the show but the writers can be extremely lazy.

  • Cicily S
    Cicily S 12 hari yang lalu

    This video was released on my birthday! Yay! And it's a video that is very thoughtful and entertaining. Thanks for that! You do make a good point with the Vashta Nerada - they do seem to have the one gimmick that can't be expanded on.

  • malcom young
    malcom young 13 hari yang lalu

    i agree about the flood, overhyped zombie archetype.
    The family of blood is an awesome vilain and must be left as they are. Because all the meaning of the plot would be nullified if they bring them back.
    the shadow that eat people got their own full story, again awesome story arc, but you can't bring them back without limiting them. And it would be repetitive.
    I was certain you would mention the Beast but the story should be awesomely written just to justify how it can survive and get out of a Black Hole. This story remind me a little of Lovecraft's Chtuhlu, a big bad one who can't die but can be jailed.
    Midnight was a GREAT behind closed doors story. limited characters, it was awesome for a filler story. I consider the vilain of the story, again, as a Lovecrat entity. lovecraft wrote his story with one thing in mind: never explain everything because your imagination can't surpass your reader's one, let him imagine a thing worse than everything you'll find and it's why the mindnight entity is awesome: we don't know anything about it.

    • 3.14 Dragon
      3.14 Dragon 5 hari yang lalu

      There's a significant theory going around that the Midnight Entity is...
      A Tardis.

  • Stewart Mair
    Stewart Mair 14 hari yang lalu

    SO you don't believe that the beast and the midnight entity are the same thing, that seems to be very credible, in which case you'd have to choose a different number 1.

  • Jerome Lancashire
    Jerome Lancashire 14 hari yang lalu

    The Wire, The Gelth, The Lonely Child and the one I can't believe they brought back The Clockwork People

  • joshua williams
    joshua williams 14 hari yang lalu

    Can you do a video on your top tardis interiors ?

  • Scine Bamm
    Scine Bamm 15 hari yang lalu

    I love how first all of these are tennant villians, and all of these were custom-made for that specific story

  • zeldahime
    zeldahime 17 hari yang lalu

    They brought the Family of Blood back in Tales of Terror - Blood Will Out. This story really ramped up the threat, but the ending felt rushed.
    There's a couple of audio stories with the Vashta Nerada. One feels like a copy of Silence in the Library, the other is more interesting (but it's an idea I had before myself - using the Vashta Nerada as bioweapons). (I think they're called the Night/Day of the Vashta Nerada).
    The Beast appears in Torchwood - End of Days. Which means he probably left the black hole through the Rift.
    I guess only the Flood and the Midnight Entity didn't come back (that I know of). But there are people who theorize the Midnight entity is the Great Intelligence, and it came to Earth to copy people in Snowmen.

    • Council of Geeks
      Council of Geeks  16 hari yang lalu +1

      I should clarify in these, that I'm more open to further exploring some of these in audio, comic, or novel format. If only because the different medium would (hopefully) force the writers to use the creatures in a slightly different way.

  • Bárbara Ribeiro
    Bárbara Ribeiro 17 hari yang lalu

    Midnight is one of my all time favorite episodes, I love how utterly vulnerable and terrified (and maybe traumatized) the Doctor is, THAT SHOT OF HIM BEING DRAGGED OUT CRYING OMG! (I kinda love seing the Doctor in emotional distress/physical pain... is the worrisome??)

  • E North
    E North 18 hari yang lalu

    Five writers never to bring back: Chibnall, Chibnall, Chibnall, Chibnall, Chibnall

  • Da Pumaface
    Da Pumaface 18 hari yang lalu

    The Flood would be good to tie with the Ice Warriors. Perhaps it's some spaceship that's travelled to Mars, accidentally picked it up, is continuing to travel when they're attacked by the Ice Warriors, but the Ice Warriors stop attacking when they discover that the Flood is onboard because they also had to deal with them on Mars. Something like that

  • Rowan Whate
    Rowan Whate 18 hari yang lalu

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but there was a video game called “Shadows of the Vashta Nerada”

  • Roxas Roy
    Roxas Roy 19 hari yang lalu

    I agree with 3 of these, but not the Flood, there is potential for another story using water as a potetial thread, and the Vashta Nerada was brought back on audio twice, one was a prequel and the other one was like a Jurassic Park story but with shadows instead of Dinosaurs.The prequel was ok, and the JP was interesting but those didnt quite work on audio.

  • DrT999
    DrT999 20 hari yang lalu

    I rather hope there re NO recurring enemies/companions etc. in season 11 -- make it all new (at least to the end of the season or Christmas special). Maybe, if she's stuck on Earth for a few episodes UNIT (without Kate and the recent backstory) might be used, but nothing more. Make the now mandatory Dalek story season 12.

  • ChanCeNecK
    ChanCeNecK 20 hari yang lalu

    Wasn't the family of blood kind of brought back in The Doctor's Wife? I mean I always thought that with the whole Uncle, Aunt and Nephew thing...

    • ChanCeNecK
      ChanCeNecK 20 hari yang lalu

      +Council of Geeks maybe they changed that for the German format...

    • ChanCeNecK
      ChanCeNecK 20 hari yang lalu

      +Council of Geeks really? The little girl was referred to as "son of mine"? Hm, I think I gotta re-watch that two parter.....

    • Council of Geeks
      Council of Geeks  20 hari yang lalu

      Now what I mean is the Family of Blood addresses each other differently depending on who they were talking to. It was either Son of Mine or Brother of Mine depending on whether he was being addressed by his mother or sister. In The Doctor’s wife, they’re just fixed destinations.

    • ChanCeNecK
      ChanCeNecK 20 hari yang lalu

      +Council of Geeks yeah, it was just basically the type of names, they had that made me draw the conclusion. Maybe they are all of the same species and it's actually not just ONE family...

    • Council of Geeks
      Council of Geeks  20 hari yang lalu

      Never thought about it, but really there doesn't appear to be any connection, and the way they refer to each other doesn't match the format of speech of the Family of Blood.

  • ChanCeNecK
    ChanCeNecK 20 hari yang lalu

    I still feel that the whole Bill/Heather thing was a Waters of Mars combined with the Midnight Entity thing, that just evolved. And I will strongly fight for that opinion!

    • ChanCeNecK
      ChanCeNecK 4 hari yang lalu

      +Stewart Mair Not with some stupid annoying nitpicky petty assholes like you, no!

    • Stewart Mair
      Stewart Mair 4 hari yang lalu

      Not so strong to discuss your stupid opinion now are you

    • ChanCeNecK
      ChanCeNecK 4 hari yang lalu

      God damn it, you are so hard to discuss with. No imagination, nitpicking me to death. I give up! Fine if you disagree with me, but I don't feel it sooo far fetched to see a possible connection between the Waters of Mars and the Waters of Heather. Even if they are two different entities, they definitely share some significant similarities. You seem to be like that kind of guy, who gets outrageous against me, when I say, African fireants are pretty similar to Australian fireants... Just leave me alone now I'm tired!

    • Stewart Mair
      Stewart Mair 5 hari yang lalu

      it's fallacious to assume that there is a connect between two entities, one of which is a virus carried in water, and one that is sentient water.

    • ChanCeNecK
      ChanCeNecK 5 hari yang lalu

      +Stewart Mair you don't seem to remember The Pilot quite well, do you? The whole Heather Entity started with a puddle. She was reeking water from her mouth later on and even travelled through it through time and space. Or do you really want to ask me now, what water has got to do with the flood!?....

  • Katherine Sanderson
    Katherine Sanderson 21 hari yang lalu

    I do think they could bring the Vashta Nerada back for one more story. Like, they land in one of their forests and have to survive but this time they can't negotiate with them or anything like that since they don't have the data ghost stuff and they wouldn't suspect anything at first since there would be no face...things to warn them about shadows and the lack of people wouldn't tip them off. Like idk, I feel like there is enough there that it could work for one more story and then be done

  • Surf Widow
    Surf Widow 21 hari yang lalu

    The Beast has come back see Torchwood idclips.com/video/GLXQm3vTv_Q/video.html?t=33s Just saying... 🤔 🤨 😐 😑 😶 🙄 😏 😣 The Library was good but the idea a dead child could read paper books was dumb as she would read what was in the Hard Drive. The idea of pulping trees all that time into the future was also dumb. They could extract and compile atoms to create paper without a tree even being part of the chain. But as a vehicle for River Song classic! Oh Look you got two shadows! LOL! !! LUL!

    • Surf Widow
      Surf Widow 21 hari yang lalu

      Council of Geeks Its a big devil the principle remains they used a very similar if not identical (as in its on the PC of the CGI dev) and they used it again albeit under another title. The point was how can they use it again? And in my opinion they did... They had to rename it cos the first one was destroyed in the Black Hole. This is all pedantic anyway I think LOL! But I do not really want to see it a third time so I kinda agree with you! ;)

    • Council of Geeks
      Council of Geeks  21 hari yang lalu

      Abadon is not the Beast. He's a similar creature, and it's implied that there are more like them trapped in other parts of the universe, but it's not the same being.

  • Greasy hair
    Greasy hair 21 hari yang lalu

    I would have said the dream Lord too. He was done so well in Amy's choice! I feel like they'd muck it up if they did anymore of the dream Lord.

  • Greasy hair
    Greasy hair 21 hari yang lalu +1

    "Oh no no no. Not you again." Great intro!

  • Philippa Godbehere
    Philippa Godbehere 21 hari yang lalu

    The classic Doctors new monsters boxsets do the vashta nerada REALLY well, especially given that Silence in the library relied a lot on visual horror. Honestly, I actually prefer those to the original story. Trust Big Finish to think of unique story perspectives for them.

  • Warren Marris
    Warren Marris 21 hari yang lalu

    @Council of Geeks Oooooooh! Interesting video... Fuck I am going to comment on each:
    The Flood: Must say i 100% agree with you and, much as many fans will be pissed of with me - They had a set story context! They worked in that one story because there was actually just more than them that were an enemy... This was one of very few times where teh Doctor Himself was actually an Enemy... First by not wanting to act as it was a 'Fixed point in time Event' - A Place he was NEVER meant to be and could not change... To him finally deciding that he would CHANGE HISTORY only for that to bit him on the arse...
    The Flood are established as being parasites of MARS, There is no logical or reasonable way for them to come back... And, Yeah I am going to agree... They are just bloody Zombies, with a cross into Vashta Nerada only Water based not air... And they don't eat people...
    They were a BRILLIANT villain for their time, but they only work in that one story context... Trying to take them further would actually become a major issue and diminish them as... Well, The next logical step would be a highly Populated area... World War W... Thats World War Z with WATER!!!
    NOPE! NOPE! NOPE! Great Villain but there time is done... Leave them back on mars PLEASE!

    • Warren Marris
      Warren Marris 21 hari yang lalu

      The Midnight Entity: Once again, ABSOLUTELY! I know fans love these creatures but they all work best in Self Contained Episodes... Anything that keeps fans talking is WONDERFUL... And to try and bring them back wounds their impact...
      I would actually like to hear what One Time Villains you think SHOULD come back...

      And I am going to throw this out there - The Abzorbaloff... Yes that episode, Love and Monsters was divisive - I personally enjoyed it as a break from the norm, It was stupid and dumb... Totally ridiculous....
      But the race itself does have POTENTIAL! And after the Doctor destroyed Davros' Reality Bomb... Clom is back where it belongs... There is a possibility that the Doctor COULD meet the race once more... Just NO PETER KAY!!!!
      OK! Lets be honest, Bringing them back as Villains may be a stretch... But bringing them back at all, Why Not? Make them less goofy which was a Peter Kay Standard... And maybe even needing teh Doctors help... They are a creature that could return in many ways, not as a villain but as something!

    • Warren Marris
      Warren Marris 21 hari yang lalu

      The Beast: JUST NO! NEVER BRING THIS BACK!

    • Warren Marris
      Warren Marris 21 hari yang lalu

      Vashta Nerada: I think one reason why people want them back is that the BBC did manage to successfully include them in an Online Game in the 'Doctor Who Adventures' Series... I believe it was teh third or forth Episode... I know the first was a Daleks Episode and then Cybermen... Yeah, I played them!
      They are a great Villain and DAMN SCARY... But they are definitely context sensitive... And Airbourne Carnivorous Parasite, but the fact they have not consumed the entire universe also suggests they themselves have a predator that stops them being a Universe ending threat... So you would have to create some kind of context that allows them to roam more freely... And like you say, that means removing the mystery of them...
      They could indeed come back, but it would have to be yet another self contained story... Short one offs that Mimic the feel of Alien... Personally, I do not feel that teh Who Team currently have that kind of ability in writing and they would be wasted... Again, I 100% agree!

    • Warren Marris
      Warren Marris 21 hari yang lalu

      The Family of Blood: WHY would anyone want these folks to come back? Sorry but why? They had a wonderful self contained story arc... I think there is only actually ONE member of teh family that could even remotely be bought back as well from what I recall of the episode... The Doctor ENSURED they could never threaten him again as what he may do at that time if they did would be beyond thinking...
      I know it was early in Nu-Who history as well, so while they terrified me when they first appeared, I watch now and I actually don't find them that compelling... I find I 100% agree with you here... Some stories are better as one offs and thats it... This is one of them!

  • kelan baron
    kelan baron 21 hari yang lalu

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  • Solidus-Skully
    Solidus-Skully 21 hari yang lalu

    They should bring back Mr Flibble.

  • Sister Ian
    Sister Ian 22 hari yang lalu

    They were all from Tennants era

  • Sister Ian
    Sister Ian 22 hari yang lalu

    Please don’t put the flood on the screen again it’s dark and I’m scared

  • Persis Medina
    Persis Medina 22 hari yang lalu +1

    I seriously never wanted to ever see Ashdilr again. Or in the first place. I wish she had stayed dead. Sorry…

  • Reese Miller
    Reese Miller 22 hari yang lalu

    I both want and don;'t want the midnight entity to return.

  • HaichaoTeaLover
    HaichaoTeaLover 22 hari yang lalu

    I don't really see why it's bad to "do the same thing again" tbh. That's kinda what we get from recurring villains too after all, like the Cybermen or Daleks. They aren't really ever INTERESTING by themselves because baseline, Cybermen want to reconfigure humanity, Daleks want to exterminate other species, and so on, what makes their episodes interesting is how different characters interact with them. Different incarnations of the Doctor, different companions and supporting cast members. Not every story is plotdriven, and many of the antagonists you named could make for a good tense backdrop for a more human character drama fueled by the danger they pose.
    Maybe not the Midnight entity, who's entire draw LIES in the mystery, but stuff like the Flood, totally.

  • Direnova
    Direnova 22 hari yang lalu

    A lot of people like a villain so want more but they don't necessarily think it through.

  • Richard Johnson
    Richard Johnson 22 hari yang lalu

    nu Dr who

  • One Pound FC
    One Pound FC 22 hari yang lalu

    The Vashta Nerada actually returned in a Doctor Who game on the BBC website with Matt Smith but I don’t think that really worked so I agree with you with your points

  • William Winters
    William Winters 22 hari yang lalu

    Brilliant list enjoyed thank you for great video

  • High Velocity
    High Velocity 23 hari yang lalu

    I honestly don't get why the Flood zombies had the driest looking mouths. They're DRIPPING in water.

  • coladict
    coladict 23 hari yang lalu

    I really don't get why you people love Midnight. I thought it sucked then, I thought it sucked later when I was rewatching the whole season and saw it again, and now I know why it sucks is because RTD wrote the episode, and wasn't just the producer. He loves to create mysteries that are intended to have no answer. He thinks that makes him clever.

  • coladict
    coladict 23 hari yang lalu

    While I'm also against bringing back The Beast for reasons that I didn't like the original story, if getting sucked into the black hole doesn't kill him, then he will eventually escape. It is confirmed that black holes lose mass over time, which means at some point they may become small enough to explode or something, and begin their cycle again.

  • Steve Redfearn
    Steve Redfearn 23 hari yang lalu

    Great video - thanks! You mentioned Davros in passing. IMHO, he should NEVER have been brought back, as great a character as he is. He met a perfect demise when his creations turned on him - totally unexpectedly for him, apparently. Then in "Destiny of the Daleks," oh guess what - he suspected treachery and wasn't really dead! I think the writers got far more mileage out of Davros than they should have - and he became rather too much of a ranting one dimensional character.

  • David Stokes
    David Stokes 23 hari yang lalu

    I think that the take-away really, is that for a villain to work in a recurring role, it has to be a sentient being or race that has motivations that are at least somewhat "normal" for humans--a desire for power, wealth, etc. They can work in a recurring role because they can come back with a new plan. With a non-sentient antagonist like the Flood (I hesitate to call an apparently non-sentient entity a villain), they can't really have a different plan, so as you say, all you can do with them is repeat what you did before.

  • justins_os
    justins_os 23 hari yang lalu

    I will say that I agree for the most part on all of these my one exception is the family of blood. I think if you used a different member of the same species that could work

  • thebasementfilmgroup
    thebasementfilmgroup 24 hari yang lalu

    Yep - definitely leave the Midnight Entity - we never need to see it again. The Doctor should have gone for therapy after that encounter.

  • malcolm adderley
    malcolm adderley 24 hari yang lalu

    Steven Muppet!

  • Elnis888
    Elnis888 24 hari yang lalu

    Hi Nathaniel! I enjoy watching your videos, and I would love to hear your thoughts on the following: Why are so many alien species seemingly afraid of The Doctor? And do we, the viewers, buy into it?
    Please keep up the great work on your very interesting videos! Friendly greetings, and a loving viking headbutt, from Denmark ;-)

    • Council of Geeks
      Council of Geeks  21 hari yang lalu

      Already addressed it about as much as I care to here: idclips.com/video/iQ71EZWEm7Q/video.html?list=PLmWFOeT2jEoe9jAWPW6fy9KWyG1LmdGYx

    • Elnis888
      Elnis888 24 hari yang lalu

      Hello. Thank you for your reply. Righty-o. I agree with you, I just thought it might make for an interesting video :-)

    • Council of Geeks
      Council of Geeks  24 hari yang lalu

      Why? Because Moffat over-extended the Doctor's importance within the universe of the show. Davies did that a little too by the time he closed out, but Moffat ran with it and now the Doctor has become so omnipresent that every other species already knows who he is. Not something I like to dwell on because I don't like it. It's that I don't buy it, I just don't like it.

  • Jeremy Smith
    Jeremy Smith 24 hari yang lalu

    The vashta nerada could totaly come back and still be awsome they would make more sense as a secondary threat in a scenario similar to the ridick with the doctor being johns and the main threat being ridick and the vashta nerada being those venomous things that have to stay in water but instead of water its a forest and obviously those suits are gone.
    But it would be way to cheesy to make the main threat not have flesh to begin with that way its imune to their effects so hope they don't do that.
    Also what entity the doctor and sky just had a really bad case of conversion disorder like that episode of house md where the guy had the bends and everyone else started to show symptom you think about being sick long enough you start showing symptoms, shame how that ended up for sky and the stewardess.

  • theuberbob
    theuberbob 24 hari yang lalu

    100% agree on Vashta Nerada.

  • mama bear 15
    mama bear 15 24 hari yang lalu

    You can add the Silence the things are frightening I had to go sleep in my sons room for company to sleep 😴 No Thank You ! .Matt Smith 11th Doctor Ended Those things in a brilliant way by exposing them to the world 🌎 Leave it like that folks.

  • Richard Ober
    Richard Ober 24 hari yang lalu

    I also say no more Daleks - but also no Cybermen and no Master/Missy. I would say for good, but an extended break would be enough for now. I know these were not one time villains as the video addresses but I've had enough of these villains for a long time.
    Tom Baker's Doctor only had 2 Daleks episodes, 1 Cybermen episode and 3 Master episodes over 7 years. This was one of the things that set him apart and made him the best Doctor.

  • Rick Powell
    Rick Powell 24 hari yang lalu

    Very Good List. Well done comments.

  • Ewen RD
    Ewen RD 24 hari yang lalu

    Apparemment il y a de la glace et même un océan sur Europa (le satellite de Jupiter)...
    Ça pourrait faire un bon décor pour une suite à "Waters of Mars" ! Un épisode où le Docteur fait de nouveau face à l'infection, mais avec de nouveaux enjeux, de nouveaux obstacles et de nouveaux moyens de lutter.

    • Stewart Mair
      Stewart Mair 14 hari yang lalu

      Il fait que etre un episode tres interessant et peut etre un peu effrayant aussi. C'est un bon idee je crois.

  • Y k
    Y k 24 hari yang lalu

    I agree with all of these

  • SUPER.00D.M0NK3Y.24 GAM31NG
    SUPER.00D.M0NK3Y.24 GAM31NG 24 hari yang lalu

    Time travel to before the beast died

  • 7696Samuel
    7696Samuel 24 hari yang lalu

    There is a flood prequel comic actually bringing a infected ice warrior to antarctica

  • SoulSandStripe Gamer
    SoulSandStripe Gamer 24 hari yang lalu

    With the Vesta Nerada they could easily have a group of humans in the forests as the doctor mentions that they are on earth, maybe they could have an infestation of them and give them new features like maybe they can now have a 3D form or something, it's just a new concept that might make them more of a threat but idk tbh

  • K Saunders
    K Saunders 24 hari yang lalu

    The Weeping Angels should never have been brought back. Talk about ruining good monsters. And I think the Master was more over-used in New Who than he was in Classic Who, and he was overused a lot in Jon Pertwee's run. Also, Moffat and his fetish for dark haired villainesses with updos was getting past the point of ridiculous. That man has a type, and he liked to let you know it!

  • gagnashdiak x
    gagnashdiak x 24 hari yang lalu

    The Beast absolutely. There you have a thing not even The Doctor can understand. ANY more detail about it, and the whole concept poofs.

  • Callum Hamacek
    Callum Hamacek 24 hari yang lalu

    Sharaz Jek (caves of androzani), Sutekh (pyramids of mars), morbius, the krynoids, Vok robots. Leave them alone please